[Tls-reg-review] [IANA #1154299] Re: [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Request to Register Value in TLS ALPN Registry
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Subject: [Tls-reg-review] [IANA #1154299] Re: [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Request to Register Value in TLS ALPN Registry
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Hi all, We've added the following entry to the Application-Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN) Protocol IDs registry: Protocol: OASIS Message Queuing Telemetry Transport (MQTT) Identification Sequence: 0x6d 0x71 0x74 0x74 (“mqtt”) Reference: [http://docs.oasis-open.org/mqtt/mqtt/v5.0/mqtt-v5.0.html] Please see https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-extensiontype-values Best regards, Sabrina Tanamal Senior IANA Services Specialist On Fri Oct 18 18:56:57 2019, ynir.ietf@gmail.com wrote: > Yup, even IP. > > IANA: Can you please add the following registration? > > Registry name: TLS Application-Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN) > Protocol IDs > Protocol field should be “OASIS Message Queuing Telemetry Transport > (MQTT)” > Identification sequence should be: 0x6d 0x71 0x74 0x74 (“mqtt”) > Reference should be this document: http://docs.oasis- > open.org/mqtt/mqtt/v5.0/mqtt-v5.0.html <http://docs.oasis- > open.org/mqtt/mqtt/v5.0/mqtt-v5.0.html> > > Thanks. > > Yoav > (on behalf of the TLS registry review team) > > > > On 18 Oct 2019, at 21:44, Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote: > > > > I’m fine with it. > > > > Tunneling things through HTTPS has a long history :) > > > > From: Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> > > Date: Friday, October 18, 2019 at 2:41 PM > > To: "Thakar, Eeshan" <thakar@amazon.com>, "tls-reg-review@ietf.org" > > <tls-reg-review@ietf.org> > > Cc: "Lee, Alexandra" <alexanl@amazon.com>, "Sharfin, Jared" > > <sharfinj@amazon.com>, "Gochenaur, Drew" <gochenau@amazon.com> > > Subject: Re: [Tls-reg-review] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Request to Register > > Value in TLS ALPN Registry > > > > I think it’s fine. > > > > Rich? Nick? (we need at least two of us to agree) > > > > Yoav > > > > > >> On 18 Oct 2019, at 20:30, Thakar, Eeshan <thakar@amazon.com > >> <mailto:thakar@amazon.com>> wrote: > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> Did you get a chance to review the application with the added > >> context from my email? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Eeshan > >> > >> From: Thakar, Eeshan <thakar@amazon.com <mailto:thakar@amazon.com>> > >> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 5:13 PM > >> To: Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com <mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com>> > >> Cc: tls-reg-review@ietf.org <mailto:tls-reg-review@ietf.org>; Lee, > >> Alexandra <alexanl@amazon.com <mailto:alexanl@amazon.com>>; Sharfin, > >> Jared <sharfinj@amazon.com <mailto:sharfinj@amazon.com>>; Gochenaur, > >> Drew <gochenau@amazon.com <mailto:gochenau@amazon.com>> > >> Subject: Re: [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Re: [Tls-reg-review] Request to > >> Register Value in TLS ALPN Registry > >> > >> Hi Yoav, > >> > >> Thanks for taking a look through the request. The current > >> implementation for the AWS IoT Gateway endpoint does support > >> HTTP/1.1 and MQTT (3.1 and 3.1.1) on the same port (443) using ALPN > >> (with a custom ALPN protocol id). > >> It also supports MQTT on the IANA registered port (8883), but allows > >> ALPN based MQTT connections on 443 to work around standard firewall > >> configurations [1]. > >> > >> The goal with getting the “mqtt” protocol id registered was to have > >> a common basis for all implementers of gateways that support HTTP > >> and MQTT (multiple cloud IoT services do so today, albeit not on the > >> same port) to have a way to accept MQTT traffic on port 443. This is > >> similar to how CoAP has both an ALPN registered string (“coap”) and > >> a registered port (5684 for CoAP with TCP/TLS). > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Eeshan > >> > >> [1]: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/iot/mqtt-with-tls-client- > >> authentication-on-port-443-why-it-is-useful-and-how-it-works/ > >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > >> 3A__aws.amazon.com_blogs_iot_mqtt-2Dwith-2Dtls-2Dclient- > >> 2Dauthentication-2Don-2Dport-2D443-2Dwhy-2Dit-2Dis-2Duseful-2Dand- > >> 2Dhow-2Dit- > >> 2Dworks_&d=DwMFaQ&c=96ZbZZcaMF4w0F4jpN6LZg&r=4LM0GbR0h9Fvx86FtsKI- > >> w&m=3E_UAQbU2i5rQj4oofQmA2Zn6VVJWCevYQrKZ79iWEM&s=gS3wQv9j7fykgWX5rYj3Juwi- > >> bASrckP4DIA5dBf2Ec&e=> > >> > >> From: Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com <mailto:ynir.ietf@gmail.com>> > >> Date: Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 2:08 AM > >> To: "Thakar, Eeshan" <thakar@amazon.com <mailto:thakar@amazon.com>> > >> Cc: "tls-reg-review@ietf.org <mailto:tls-reg-review@ietf.org>" <tls- > >> reg-review@ietf.org <mailto:tls-reg-review@ietf.org>>, "Lee, > >> Alexandra" <alexanl@amazon.com <mailto:alexanl@amazon.com>>, > >> "Sharfin, Jared" <sharfinj@amazon.com <mailto:sharfinj@amazon.com>>, > >> "Gochenaur, Drew" <gochenau@amazon.com <mailto:gochenau@amazon.com>> > >> Subject: [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Re: [Tls-reg-review] Request to > >> Register Value in TLS ALPN Registry > >> > >> On 9 Aug 2019, at 23:45, Thakar, Eeshan > >> <thakar=40amazon.com@dmarc.ietf.org > >> <mailto:thakar=40amazon.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: > >> > >>> Type of Assignment: > >>> Registration of “mqtt” token > >>> > >>> Registry: > >>> Application Layer Protocol Negotiation (ALPN) Protocol ID > >>> > >>> Description: > >>> The mqtt protocol has the protocol version written into the first > >>> message on a connection. The mqtt server implementations typically > >>> understand the protocol version based on the fixed header on the > >>> first message (connect). > >>> > >>> Adding this protocol id to the registry will help the community > >>> since clients wanting to request mqtt as the protocol would have an > >>> appropriate specification reference to use. > >>> > >>> Additional Info: > >>> [1] MQTT 3.1 Specification: > >>> http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/webservices/ws-mqtt/mqtt- > >>> v3r1.html <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http- > >>> 3A__public.dhe.ibm.com_software_dw_webservices_ws-2Dmqtt_mqtt- > >>> 2Dv3r1.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=96ZbZZcaMF4w0F4jpN6LZg&r=4LM0GbR0h9Fvx86FtsKI- > >>> w&m=3E_UAQbU2i5rQj4oofQmA2Zn6VVJWCevYQrKZ79iWEM&s=cCCKZ- > >>> lqltftwi8iSb9xnH41GIG7pDOo77inFY0LShI&e=> > >>> [2] MQTT 3.1.1 Specification: http://docs.oasis- > >>> open.org/mqtt/mqtt/v3.1.1/csprd02/mqtt-v3.1.1-csprd02.html > >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__docs.oasis- > >>> 2Dopen.org_mqtt_mqtt_v3.1.1_csprd02_mqtt-2Dv3.1.1- > >>> 2Dcsprd02.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=96ZbZZcaMF4w0F4jpN6LZg&r=4LM0GbR0h9Fvx86FtsKI- > >>> w&m=3E_UAQbU2i5rQj4oofQmA2Zn6VVJWCevYQrKZ79iWEM&s=PmP61TQmKHzpZMhM8TNDzpcZBqp1fZ8RM7xE05_c9T8&e=> > >>> [3] MQTT 5.0 Specification: http://docs.oasis- > >>> open.org/mqtt/mqtt/v5.0/mqtt-v5.0.html > >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__docs.oasis- > >>> 2Dopen.org_mqtt_mqtt_v5.0_mqtt- > >>> 2Dv5.0.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=96ZbZZcaMF4w0F4jpN6LZg&r=4LM0GbR0h9Fvx86FtsKI- > >>> w&m=3E_UAQbU2i5rQj4oofQmA2Zn6VVJWCevYQrKZ79iWEM&s=BEoHGVZzaCG6fp19ig2vfDpkz4rJkQhdUEVOG8EtQD0&e=> > >>> > >> > >> Hi, Eeshan. > >> > >> I’ve looked through the linked specifications, especially the third > >> one because it says it replaces the others. > >> > >> It says that TCP port 8883 is registered with IANA for MQTT over > >> TLS, and the IANA registry confirms it. If you have your own port, > >> why do you need ALPN? > >> > >> ALPN is used to negotiate a particular service (such as HTTP) over a > >> single port, typically 443. > >> > >> So if you were using a server listening on port 443 and serving both > >> MQTT and HTTP/2 you would need that to distinguish clients that need > >> MQTT from web browsers that need HTTP/2. > >> > >> The linked document does not make any mention of such a server. Is > >> this described elsewhere? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Yoav
- [Tls-reg-review] Request to Register Value in TLS… Thakar, Eeshan
- Re: [Tls-reg-review] Request to Register Value in… Yoav Nir
- Re: [Tls-reg-review] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Re: Requ… Thakar, Eeshan
- Re: [Tls-reg-review] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Re: Requ… Thakar, Eeshan
- Re: [Tls-reg-review] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Request … Yoav Nir
- Re: [Tls-reg-review] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Request … Salz, Rich
- Re: [Tls-reg-review] [UNVERIFIED SENDER] Request … Yoav Nir
- [Tls-reg-review] [IANA #1154299] Re: [UNVERIFIED … Sabrina Tanamal via RT
- Re: [Tls-reg-review] [IANA #1154299] Re: [UNVERIF… Salz, Rich
- [Tls-reg-review] [IANA #1154299] Re: [UNVERIFIED … Sabrina Tanamal via RT