Re: [Tls-reg-review] [IANA #1141082] Fwd: Early code-point assignment request for draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Tue, 11 June 2019 16:18 UTC

Return-Path: <rsalz@akamai.com>
X-Original-To: tls-reg-review@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: tls-reg-review@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B121202F1; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 09:18:40 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.71
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.71 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=akamai.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3iOme3tyEk8Z; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 09:18:37 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mx0a-00190b01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00190b01.pphosted.com [IPv6:2620:100:9001:583::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49E2F120365; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 09:18:37 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from pps.filterd (m0122333.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00190b01.pphosted.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x5BGEAb0002140; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:18:15 +0100
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=akamai.com; h=from : to : cc : subject : date : message-id : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-id : content-transfer-encoding : mime-version; s=jan2016.eng; bh=hKzS98VjlGckTdwhTBa5Nt9VKU6HRM/Zu9E0sY/P+vw=; b=SgQl8wsDYWuWSK68my9QRuG72rLXuUWT7oYy21b4uZFca9GzDgpT1kRCVswyZqyYR/zN 7SNX3EFfaLg6thMYuayhmdrDYRslD3DDl2jugYNW5kOBUKzQkoTr1uriPt3gPu3zBn+q 2zqed0MYSOYzEMnbaNb/Dl2oPn65iImB0O5xmSC8tlXI4jgF5nuYTxRH2Sv5xyEdKhih PI4zqgTPmyKGkpuoDBNxJiHiKbE+75oZGsAR3E4d9FcpYkkfQlz93mcK/YZgpwDo+j6u qpsWv5CIpvkS7H+Nd7N+IWRLVAnZqQDcYl6C+LlpRDmNMv+zqWzhJcEzAQ2LXbyv+ukJ gQ==
Received: from prod-mail-ppoint2 (prod-mail-ppoint2.akamai.com [184.51.33.19] (may be forged)) by mx0a-00190b01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 2t1q05ckf0-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:18:14 +0100
Received: from pps.filterd (prod-mail-ppoint2.akamai.com [127.0.0.1]) by prod-mail-ppoint2.akamai.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x5BGHrg7012605; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:18:13 -0400
Received: from email.msg.corp.akamai.com ([172.27.123.53]) by prod-mail-ppoint2.akamai.com with ESMTP id 2t08bwf2gx-4 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:18:12 -0400
Received: from USMA1EX-DAG1MB3.msg.corp.akamai.com (172.27.123.103) by usma1ex-dag1mb1.msg.corp.akamai.com (172.27.123.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1473.3; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:17:26 -0400
Received: from USMA1EX-DAG1MB3.msg.corp.akamai.com ([::1]) by usma1ex-dag1mb3.msg.corp.akamai.com ([fe80::9049:d725:bf4b:d545%18]) with mapi id 15.00.1473.003; Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:17:26 -0400
From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: "iana-matrix@iana.org" <iana-matrix@iana.org>, "joe@salowey.net" <joe@salowey.net>
CC: "ynir.ietf@gmail.com" <ynir.ietf@gmail.com>, "nick@cloudflare.com" <nick@cloudflare.com>, "tls-reg-review@ietf.org" <tls-reg-review@ietf.org>, "tls-chairs@ietf.org" <tls-chairs@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [IANA #1141082] Fwd: Early code-point assignment request for draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id
Thread-Index: AQHVIHDWH8OvbNmK90qqA2sF/FqV2qaWoW6A
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:17:25 +0000
Message-ID: <D1A102AA-0FCC-4EDF-ABB5-EF66DE7FA0D9@akamai.com>
References: <RT-Ticket-1141082@icann.org> <CAOgPGoCN+VbtggC0vx_OqsKJcWqUWhnP+b5pJDJLuRci51XL3A@mail.gmail.com> <20190420021254.GN51586@kduck.mit.edu> <CAOgPGoDFEmmLCRQeXY_YoP1ErncQCD6N53u=N-kqmE_e+ZXysw@mail.gmail.com> <rt-4.4.3-27904-1558624173-1826.1141082-37-0@icann.org> <CAOgPGoANNUymaZmFx_bhUVSDK7poaWUaJXeEHdGEKj1Cg2+pPA@mail.gmail.com> <ABED8420-5525-4B00-ACE6-CBF8B427CF70@akamai.com> <CAFDDyk9mxpWSbt1pimj2dQGvEQnuKHaVeMe1ucUYOP0hT-7QmA@mail.gmail.com> <f4de392d-ae22-4380-b882-424d5e96ef53@www.fastmail.com> <rt-4.4.3-11518-1558983588-1586.1141082-37-0@icann.org> <rt-4.4.3-13608-1560269703-1675.1141082-37-0@icann.org>
In-Reply-To: <rt-4.4.3-13608-1560269703-1675.1141082-37-0@icann.org>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/10.1a.0.190609
x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1
x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted
x-originating-ip: [172.19.37.24]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-ID: <C3FA5ABE623A294F8F32B6919C003E9B@akamai.com>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-06-11_08:, , signatures=0
X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1906110105
X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-06-11_08:, , signatures=0
X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1906110105
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls-reg-review/os81x3Mb6yKbXC26CO65KYPOclI>
Subject: Re: [Tls-reg-review] [IANA #1141082] Fwd: Early code-point assignment request for draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id
X-BeenThere: tls-reg-review@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: TLS REVIEW <tls-reg-review.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/tls-reg-review>, <mailto:tls-reg-review-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/tls-reg-review/>
List-Post: <mailto:tls-reg-review@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:tls-reg-review-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls-reg-review>, <mailto:tls-reg-review-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:18:45 -0000

How long would it take to add a comment field or a {dtls/tls/both} column?

On 6/11/19, 12:15 PM, "Sabrina Tanamal via RT" <iana-matrix@iana.org> wrote:

    Hi all, 
    
    Can you let us know if we can proceed with this request or is there discussion needed based on the questions asked by Chris and Nick? 
    
    NOTE: We're trying to figure out if there's an issue with the mailing list, so we're explicitly copying Rich, Yoav and Nick. 
    
    Thanks,
    
    Sabrina Tanamal
    Senior IANA Services Specialist
    
    On Mon May 27 18:59:48 2019, caw@heapingbits.net wrote:
    > I’ve no strong objections, though erring on the side of clarity is
    > probably best. How difficult would it be to add a field to distinguish
    > between the two?
    > 
    > Best,
    > Chris
    > 
    > On Thu, May 23, 2019, at 11:00 AM, Nick Sullivan wrote:
    > > This sounds good to me. However, there doesn't seem to be a way to
    > > indicate that this extension is for DTLS only and not TLS. I don't
    > > think that's an issue, but I'm interested to hear if anyone else has
    > > an objection.
    > >
    > > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 9:35 AM Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote:
    > > > __ __
    > >
    > > > I don’t recall seeing this until now. Explicitly copying Yoav and
    > > > Nick.____
    > >
    > > > __ __
    > >
    > > > I’m one of three and I support this. Does this work?____
    > >
    > > > Value 53____
    > >
    > > > TLS 1.3 –____
    > >
    > > > Recommended Y____
    > >
    > > > RFC TBD____
    > >
    > > > __ __
    > >
    > > > *From: *Joseph Salowey <joe@salowey.net>
    > > > *Date: *Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 12:23 PM
    > > > *To: *"iana-matrix@iana.org" <iana-matrix@iana.org>, "tls-reg-
    > > > review@ietf.org" <tls-reg-review@ietf.org>
    > > > *Cc: *Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>, "tls-chairs@ietf.org" <tls-
    > > > chairs@ietf.org>
    > > > *Subject: *Re: [Tls-reg-review] [IANA #1141082] Fwd: Early code-
    > > > point assignment request for draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id____
    > >
    > > > __ __
    > >
    > > > I haven't seen the messages appear in the tls-reg-review archives
    > > > so I'm cc'ing them on this email to see if its stuck somewhere. The
    > > > version of draft that I am preparing to send to the IESG is here
    > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id-05
    > > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
    > > > 3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-2Dietf-2Dtls-2Ddtls-2Dconnection-
    > > > 2Did-2D05&d=DwMFaQ&c=96ZbZZcaMF4w0F4jpN6LZg&r=4LM0GbR0h9Fvx86FtsKI-
    > > > w&m=AFFRssmLkZuplUd1HVENEAI4HsfgSfv353Ivwszsxwc&s=6AXFN925MRdSclV8uo2RFkWtrlWPoTZdLcXbR6fzS8g&e=>.
    > > > The authors have requested early code point assignment and that
    > > > requires expert approval. ____
    > >
    > > > __ __
    > >
    > > > Thanks,____
    > >
    > > > __ __
    > >
    > > > Joe____
    > >
    > > > __ __
    > >
    > > > __ __
    > >
    > > > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 8:09 AM Sabrina Tanamal via RT <iana-
    > > > matrix@iana.org> wrote:____
    > >
    > > >> Hi Joe,
    > > >>
    > > >> We've sent this request to the experts at tls-reg-review@ietf.org
    > > >> on 8 May 2019, and we pinged them again yesterday. We haven't
    > > >> heard back from the experts regarding this request, could you let
    > > >> us know if you still don't see it in the archives?
    > > >>
    > > >> Thank you,
    > > >> Sabrina
    > > >>
    > > >> On Thu May 23 05:27:22 2019, joe@salowey.net wrote:
    > > >> > Hi Sabrina,
    > > >> >
    > > >> > Am I supposed to ask the experts for a review or will IANA
    > > >> > initiate
    > > >> > this?
    > > >> > I don't think I've seen a request for review appear in the
    > > >> > archives
    > > >> > for the
    > > >> > tls-reg-reviewt@ietf.org yet.
    > > >> >
    > > >> > Thanks,
    > > >> >
    > > >> > Joe
    > > >> >
    > > >> > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 2:54 PM Sabrina Tanamal via RT <iana-
    > > >> > issues@iana.org>
    > > >> > wrote:
    > > >> >
    > > >> > > Hi Joe,
    > > >> > >
    > > >> > > We can make the ContentType registration in Section 8 now, but
    > > >> > > we
    > > >> > > need to
    > > >> > > ask you how to fill in the "DTLS-OK" column.
    > > >> > >
    > > >> > > Because the registration procedure for the ExtensionType
    > > >> > > Values is
    > > >> > > Specification Required, we need to ask the designated experts
    > > >> > > to
    > > >> > > review and
    > > >> > > approve the ExtensionType Value registration before we can
    > > >> > > make an
    > > >> > > early
    > > >> > > allocation.
    > > >> > >
    > > >> > > Thanks,
    > > >> > >
    > > >> > > Sabrina Tanamal
    > > >> > > Senior IANA Services Specialist
    > > >> > >
    > > >> > > On Wed May 08 14:25:55 2019, joe@salowey.net wrote:
    > > >> > > > Hi Michelle,
    > > >> > > >
    > > >> > > > Yes, this is a request for both.
    > > >> > > >
    > > >> > > > Thanks,
    > > >> > > >
    > > >> > > > Joe
    > > >> > > >
    > > >> > > > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 6:51 AM Michelle Cotton via RT <
    > > >> > > iana-issues@iana.org>
    > > >> > > > wrote:
    > > >> > > >
    > > >> > > > > Hello Joe,
    > > >> > > > >
    > > >> > > > > Apologies for the delay in my response. I hope you are
    > > >> > > > > doing
    > > >> > > > > well.
    > > >> > > > >
    > > >> > > > > Quick question for your request below. In the document
    > > >> > > > > there are
    > > >> > > > > 2
    > > >> > > > > requests for parameter registrations. Are you requesting
    > > >> > > > > early
    > > >> > > allocation
    > > >> > > > > for both?
    > > >> > > > >
    > > >> > > > > Thanks in advance.
    > > >> > > > >
    > > >> > > > > --Michelle
    > > >> > > > >
    > > >> > > > > On Tue Apr 23 04:51:06 2019, joe@salowey.net wrote:
    > > >> > > > > > Hi IANA,
    > > >> > > > > >
    > > >> > > > > > We have received a request for early code point
    > > >> > > > > > assignment for
    > > >> > > > > > draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id-04. The chairs believe
    > > >> > > > > > that
    > > >> > > > > > the
    > > >> > > draft
    > > >> > > > > is
    > > >> > > > > > stable. Our AD, Ben also approves this early assignment.
    > > >> > > > > > Please
    > > >> > > let me
    > > >> > > > > > know if you need more information or have any questions.
    > > >> > > > > >
    > > >> > > > > > Thanks,
    > > >> > > > > >
    > > >> > > > > > Joe
    > > >> > > > > >
    > > >> > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
    > > >> > > > > > From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
    > > >> > > > > > Date: Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 7:12 PM
    > > >> > > > > > Subject: Re: Early code-point assignment request for
    > > >> > > > > > draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id
    > > >> > > > > > To: Joseph Salowey <joe@salowey.net>
    > > >> > > > > > Cc: tls-chairs <tls-chairs@ietf.org>, <tls-reg-
    > > >> > > > > > review@ietf.org>
    > > >> > > > > >
    > > >> > > > > >
    > > >> > > > > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 10:32:00PM -0700, Joseph Salowey
    > > >> > > > > > wrote:
    > > >> > > > > > > Hi Ben,
    > > >> > > > > > >
    > > >> > > > > > > We have a request for early code point assignment
    > > >> > > > > > > for draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id. We believe the
    > > >> > > > > > > draft
    > > >> > > > > > > is
    > > >> > > stable
    > > >> > > > > and
    > > >> > > > > > > no one has objected to the early code point
    > > >> > > > > > > announcement on
    > > >> > > > > > > the
    > > >> > > list.
    > > >> > > > > > >
    > > >> > > > > > > Let me know if you have any questions or need more
    > > >> > > > > > > information.
    > > >> > > > > >
    > > >> > > > > > I'm happy to see this go forward.
    > > >> > > > > > (You will send the actual request to IANA, not me,
    > > >> > > > > > right?)
    > > >> > > > > >
    > > >> > > > > > Thanks, and sorry for the slow response,
    > > >> > > > > >
    > > >> > > > > > Ben
    > > >> > > > >
    > > >> > > > >
    > > >> > >
    > > >> > > ____
    > >