Re: [Tls-reg-review] [IANA #1141082] Early code-point assignment request for draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id

Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> Fri, 28 June 2019 03:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Tls-reg-review] [IANA #1141082] Early code-point assignment request for draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id
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Amanda,

I think we’re good to go?

spt

> On Jun 26, 2019, at 16:19, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Sorry. Sure.  
> 
> These seem fine.
> 
> Yoav
> 
>> On 26 Jun 2019, at 19:56, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yoav or Nick,
>> 
>> If we need two approvals, can one of your confirm these assignments:
>> 
>> Registry: TLS ExtensionType Values
>> Value: 53
>> Extension Name: connection_id
>> 
>> Registry: TLS ContentType Registry
>> Value: 25
>> Extension Name: tls12_cid
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> spt
>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 21:49, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> An excellent question :). When we are done there will be two code points assigned for this draft.
>>> 
>>> spt
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 24, 2019, at 18:54, Sabrina Tanamal via RT <iana-matrix@iana.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all, 
>>>> 
>>>> Does IANA need to make one or more assignments right now? We understand that we need approvals from at least two designated experts in order to proceed. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sabrina
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun Jun 16 20:46:16 2019, rsalz@akamai.com wrote:
>>>>> So looking at the registry, it seems that
>>>>> 25  tls1.2 connection id y
>>>>> Makes sense.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/16/19, 1:47 PM, "Sean Turner" <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> So … it turns out there are two registry requests for this draft:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) TLS ExtensionType Values: connection_id
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think we got a number assigned here, but we need a couple of tweaks
>>>>> in the IANA section (I will submit a PR):
>>>>> 
>>>>> a) Needs to request new column for DTLS-only
>>>>> b) Needs to specify TLS1.3 Column value.  I beieive the value should
>>>>> be empty as this is only applicable to DTLS 1.2.  To amke this clear
>>>>> we should ask for a note.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2) TLS ContentType Registry: tls12_cid
>>>>> 
>>>>> We still a number assignment for this one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> spt
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 23, 2019, at 13:59, Nick Sullivan <nick@cloudflare.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This sounds good to me. However, there doesn't seem to be a way to
>>>>>> indicate that this extension is for DTLS only and not TLS. I don't
>>>>>> think that's an issue, but I'm interested to hear if anyone else has
>>>>>> an objection.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 9:35 AM Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don’t recall seeing this until now.  Explicitly copying Yoav and
>>>>>> Nick.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m one of three and I support this.   Does this work?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Value 53
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> TLS 1.3 –
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Recommended Y
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> RFC TBD
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Joseph Salowey <joe@salowey.net>
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 12:23 PM
>>>>>> To: "iana-matrix@iana.org" <iana-matrix@iana.org>, "tls-reg-
>>>>>> review@ietf.org" <tls-reg-review@ietf.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>, "tls-chairs@ietf.org" <tls-
>>>>>> chairs@ietf.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Tls-reg-review] [IANA #1141082] Fwd: Early code-point
>>>>>> assignment request for draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I haven't seen the messages appear in the tls-reg-review archives so
>>>>>> I'm cc'ing them on this email to see if its stuck somewhere.   The
>>>>>> version of draft that I am preparing to send to the IESG is here
>>>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id-05.
>>>>>> The authors have requested early code point assignment and that
>>>>>> requires expert approval.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 8:09 AM Sabrina Tanamal via RT <iana-
>>>>>> matrix@iana.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Joe,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We've sent this request to the experts at tls-reg-review@ietf.org on
>>>>>> 8 May 2019, and we pinged them again yesterday. We haven't heard back
>>>>>> from the experts regarding this request, could you let us know if you
>>>>>> still don't see it in the archives?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Sabrina
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu May 23 05:27:22 2019, joe@salowey.net wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Sabrina,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am I supposed to ask the experts for a review or will IANA initiate
>>>>>>> this?
>>>>>>> I don't think I've seen a request for review appear in the archives
>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>> tls-reg-reviewt@ietf.org yet.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 2:54 PM Sabrina Tanamal via RT <iana-
>>>>>>> issues@iana.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Joe,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We can make the ContentType registration in Section 8 now, but we
>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>> ask you how to fill in the "DTLS-OK" column.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Because the registration procedure for the ExtensionType Values
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> Specification Required, we need to ask the designated experts to
>>>>>>>> review and
>>>>>>>> approve the ExtensionType Value registration before we can make
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> early
>>>>>>>> allocation.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sabrina Tanamal
>>>>>>>> Senior IANA Services Specialist
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed May 08 14:25:55 2019, joe@salowey.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Michelle,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes, this is a request for both.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 6:51 AM Michelle Cotton via RT <
>>>>>>>> iana-issues@iana.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Joe,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Apologies for the delay in my response.  I hope you are doing
>>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Quick question for your request below.  In the document there
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>>>>> requests for parameter registrations.  Are you requesting
>>>>>>>>>> early
>>>>>>>> allocation
>>>>>>>>>> for both?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --Michelle
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue Apr 23 04:51:06 2019, joe@salowey.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi IANA,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> We have received a request for  early code point assignment
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id-04.  The chairs believe
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> draft
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> stable.  Our AD, Ben also approves this early assignment.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please
>>>>>>>> let me
>>>>>>>>>>> know if you need more information or have any questions.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 7:12 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Early code-point assignment request for
>>>>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Joseph Salowey <joe@salowey.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: tls-chairs <tls-chairs@ietf.org>, <tls-reg-
>>>>>>>>>>> review@ietf.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 10:32:00PM -0700, Joseph Salowey
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have a request for early code point assignment
>>>>>>>>>>>> for draft-ietf-tls-dtls-connection-id.  We believe the
>>>>>>>>>>>> draft
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> stable
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> no one has objected to the early code point announcement
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know if you have any questions or need more
>>>>>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to see this go forward.
>>>>>>>>>>> (You will send the actual request to IANA, not me, right?)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, and sorry for the slow response,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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