Re: [TLS] Editorial: chronological order in ECH draft

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Wed, 23 June 2021 23:47 UTC

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On 24/06/2021 00:37, Martin Thomson wrote:
> Whatever you can do to improve the readability of this document would
> be greatly appreciated. 

+1 though I have to admit I've really been mostly looking
at diffs at this stage - probably some new readers/coders
are needed,

S.

> It's a complicated design and I always spend
> far too much time trying to find answers to my questions.  A better
> structure would be appreciated.
> 
> I do find that questions aren't always about behaviour.  They are
> also about protocol elements, and those a scattered piecemeal
> throughout.  So I would be disappointed if any restructuring were
> limited to just getting the time sequence straightened out.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, at 09:04, Carrick Bartle wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm bringing
>> https://github.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-esni/issues/412 to the list
>> since it looks like we're (hopefully) getting close to the end game
>> with ECH.
>> 
>> The ECH draft is currently organized such that it describes all
>> client behavior and then all server behavior. Personally, I find
>> this very confusing to follow, and I'm constantly having to flip
>> back and forth between sections (which themselves constantly refer
>> to each other). Does anyone object to my rearranging the content to
>> be in more of the order in which things occur rather than being
>> divided into client and server sections? Of course, depending on
>> how I do it, it could end up being *more* confusing, but I just
>> wanted to see if people were opposed to it in principle.
>> 
>> Carrick _______________________________________________ TLS mailing
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