Return-Path: X-Original-To: tls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D6F1B2C74 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:27:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M4d2vpphYgFM for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-x22f.google.com (mail-qg0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 790491B2BCD for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qgeu79 with SMTP id u79so164889qge.1 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:26:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=0CZLTTcLR+gqZNXx8a9Ixx0E9L49UciD4KqnoxHNpw4=; b=ffiTeOWMBm164anH6qRANprLJl0w+gCuX5BNEa9QokkWZKTi2dy2GmalT7Hh0k4BA4 7xYAI8+hIwBOjY7KzTYh4yYr8aWGyCqWsCis2VZ3bmjZge/qIe0ncCoAZwn6nLpsBg8g Zy98oZnXoTFpoCoz4O2N+P1s72ogO13cPL3DjjskzLWRe7OGq1Y4XMYcRUwD12u4MkYY w41S286adStyDwvg8rBubaWSkmH33P9/gXdcPupqDnPLcUemRQ5fovJKbviOZWmj98+e 9adrptmwzULipzc/sOcxe7Fzq3GYJMM7nU1LlmlMouJ/z6WRssSct4R14HclQhn25p+e 6Mig== X-Received: by 10.55.15.75 with SMTP id z72mr13922998qkg.58.1437675981760; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dave-laptop.localnet (pool-96-245-254-195.phlapa.fios.verizon.net. [96.245.254.195]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 76sm2756185qhg.49.2015.07.23.11.26.21 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:26:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Garrett To: Aaron Zauner Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 14:26:20 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.32-74-generic-pae; KDE/4.4.5; i686; ; ) References: <201507222139.46391.davemgarrett@gmail.com> <55B0C6A2.40304@azet.org> In-Reply-To: <55B0C6A2.40304@azet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201507231426.20542.davemgarrett@gmail.com> Archived-At: Cc: "tls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [TLS] new error alerts? X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 18:27:08 -0000 On Thursday, July 23, 2015 06:49:06 am Aaron Zauner wrote: > I mean I kinda agree that 'insufficent security' is a misleading name, > but as it has been used for decades in TLS I'm a bit hesitant if it's a > good idea to change the name now. Alternate bikesheddy response: what about renaming it to "insufficient_cipher_security" and adding a new "insufficient_dh_security"? That keeps the legacy naming, but modifies it to include actual specific meaning, rather than a total replacement. Dave