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Re: [TLS] Bikeshedding ECHO

Erik Nygren <erik+ietf@nygren.org> Thu, 21 May 2020 15:52 UTC

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Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 11:52:41 -0400
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Bikeshedding ECHO
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Are there any objections to "ECH" or should we just go with that?
(I'd like to update the parameter name in SRVB/HTTPSSVC accordingly based
on what gets decided.)


On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:37 PM Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com> wrote:

> ECH is good. Go for it!
>
> Tommy
>
> On May 20, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Erik Nygren <erik+ietf@nygren.org> wrote:
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> 
>
> ECH works for me.  (I really don't care between ECH and ETCH and thing
> both are fine.)
>
>     Erik
>
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> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:20 PM Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2020, at 8:18 PM, Filippo Valsorda wrote:
>> > As a data point, I was fairly confused when ECHO came up in
>> > conversation, and had to stop to ask what it was. I think I would have
>> > had a better chance of figuring it out from context or search if it
>> > were called ECH, but don't have a strong preference for any specific
>> > name.
>> >
>> > ECH does have a remarkable short Wikipedia disambiguation list, FWIW.
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECH
>>
>> ECH also works for me.
>>
>> Best,
>> Chris (no hat)
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