[TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-mldsa-03.txt> (Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3) to Informational RFC
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Subject: [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-mldsa-03.txt> (Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3) to Informational RFC
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Hiya, On 04/06/2026 00:29, D. J. Bernstein wrote: > IETF does not control software engineering. It_does_ control which TLS > options it will endorse. At that layer, there are currently two choices: > (1) common-sense ECC+PQ; (2) damaging security with solo PQ. I disagree. There's also: (3) experiment with PQ authentication in TLS while recommending against production deployment at this time. Were (3) an IETF-consensus position, IMO publishing this document as an RFC would not be problematic. Cheers, S.
- [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-mldsa-03.txt> (U… The IESG
- [TLS] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-mldsa-03.txt… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-… Dave Cridland
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-mldsa-03.txt… Simon Josefsson
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-… Bron Gondwana
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-… Eliot Lear
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Last Call: <dra… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-… Daniel Apon
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Last Ca… Brian E Carpenter
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Last Ca… Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-mldsa-03.tx… Brian E Carpenter
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-mldsa-03.tx… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: <draft-ietf-tls-mldsa-0… John C Klensin
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Last Ca… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-m… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-m… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-m… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-m… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Last Ca… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-m… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-m… Brian E Carpenter
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:… Loganaden Velvindron
- [TLS] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-mldsa-03.txt… Tanja Lange
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Last Ca… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-m… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-m… Brian E Carpenter
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-m… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-m… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-m… Marc Penninga
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-… Russ Housley
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-… Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-… Filippo Valsorda
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-… Sophie Schmieg
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Last Call: <draft-i… Loganaden Velvindron
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Last Call: <draft-i… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Last Call: <draft-i… Falko Strenzke
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-… Filippo Valsorda
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-… Filippo Valsorda
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Last Call: <draft-i… Damien Miller
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Last Call: <draft-i… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Last Call: <draft-i… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Last Call: <draft-i… Loganaden Velvindron
- [TLS] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-mldsa-03.txt… Paul Hoffman
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-m… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Re: Last Call: <draft-i… Soatok Dreamseeker
- [TLS] Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-mldsa-03.txt… Deb Cooley
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-m… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-m… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] <draft-ietf-tls-m… Brian E Carpenter
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