[TLS] Re: ML-KEM IANA and draft-connolly-tls-mlkem-key-agreement codepoint and inconsistencies

Bas Westerbaan <bas@cloudflare.com> Thu, 06 March 2025 20:01 UTC

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Subject: [TLS] Re: ML-KEM IANA and draft-connolly-tls-mlkem-key-agreement codepoint and inconsistencies
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This is indeed fantastic—congratulations!

Will X25519MLKEM768 be enabled by default?

On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 2:32 PM John Mattsson <john.mattsson=
40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Great that X25519MLKEM768 and MLKEM1024 will be in the 3.5 LTS release
> https://openssl-library.org/post/2025-02-04-release-announcement-3.5/
>
> Also great to see DTLS 1.3 as a top priority for 3.6.
>
> https://openssl-communities.org/d/HCdTYIoN/priorities-for-3-6
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From: *Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org>
> *Date: *Thursday, 6 March 2025 at 14:08
> *To: *tls@ietf.org <tls@ietf.org>
> *Subject: *[TLS] Re: ML-KEM IANA and
> draft-connolly-tls-mlkem-key-agreement codepoint and inconsistencies
>
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 11:29:16AM +0000, Daniel Van Geest wrote:
>
> > IANA went with the uppercase naming, while OpenSSL went with lower.
>
> That is not the case, OpenSSL uses the IANA names, but the matching is
> now case-insensitive.  Perhaps you were testing with the oqsprovider?
>
>     $ openssl list -tls1_3 -tls-groups | tr ':' '\n' | tail -n6
>     MLKEM512
>     MLKEM768
>     MLKEM1024
>     SecP256r1MLKEM768
>     X25519MLKEM768
>     SecP384r1MLKEM1024
>
> > Lowercase is generally more consistent with the other IANA codepoints,
> > with some exceptions including the recent hybrids. For what it's
> > worth, the slightly different bikeshed shade that I prefer is
> > lowercase.
>
> We'll likely shortly change the group name lookup code to be
> case-insensitive, just in case, and a convenience for the users.
>
> --
>     Viktor.
>
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