[TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Concerns and Risks
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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>, David Adrian <davadria@umich.edu>
Thread-Topic: [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Concerns and Risks
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Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 03:56:55 +0000
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* I've read it before. I the main issue is that it says "trusted" a lot. Yeah, kinda snippy but not necessarily wrong. I’m a little skeptical of approaches that solve an entire problem space with one architecture. I’m more skeptical of enough people having the ability to read and understand the semantics of several pages of JSON object descriptions. I know I got MEGO[1] a copule of times while reading it. Can we simplify things and solve just one problem? For example, in some off-line discuissions others have mentioned that with PQ signatures being so big, there are policy decisions that clients might want to enforce – do you need SCT’s? Do you want OCSP stapling? Maybe it will be worthwhile to just think about what kind hybrid/PQ policies clients will want to express? [1] https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/mego
- [TLS]Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Concer… Devon O'Brien
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Rob Sayre
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Nick Harper
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… David Adrian
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Rob Sayre
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Salz, Rich
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Nick Harper
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… David Benjamin
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Watson Ladd
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Mike Shaver
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… David Benjamin
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Salz, Rich
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Dennis Jackson
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Mike Shaver
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… David Benjamin
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Mike Shaver
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Devon O'Brien
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Dennis Jackson
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Mike Shaver
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Dennis Jackson
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Dennis Jackson
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Salz, Rich
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Dennis Jackson
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Salz, Rich
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Dennis Jackson
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Salz, Rich
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Watson Ladd
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Salz, Rich
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Rob Sayre
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… Dennis Jackson
- [TLS]Re: Trust Anchor Negotiation Surveillance Co… David Benjamin