Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls-session-hash-05: (with DISCUSS)
Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Sun, 17 May 2015 06:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls-session-hash-05: (with DISCUSS)
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That is a perfect answer, and I will clear my discuss now, and let you all do the right thing, whatever you decide that is. Barry On Saturday, May 16, 2015, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote: > > Hiya, > > First, I don't think there's much energy for this issue but we > should get it sorted and move on. > > So, how about if we add that this updates 5246 and leave it at that? > > The meaning there is that anyone who writes a new implementation > of 5246 really ought also do this too. > > I don't think there's any possible harm to adding that and doing > so achieves whatever possible good effect there might be from the > addition of any "Updates" relationship. > > If I hear nothing, I'll add an RFC editor note to that effect in > a few days and hopefully that'll be sufficient for Barry to clear > his discuss. (Barry, if not, please say what would work.) > > Cheers, > S. > > On 14/05/15 09:58, Karthikeyan Bhargavan wrote: > > The session-hash draft has roughly the same impact as RFC5746, which > says: > > "Updates: 5246, 4366, 4347, 4346, 2246" > > > > We would be happy to add this list or a subset. > > > > Other RFCs affected by the current proposal are: rfc5929, rfc5705, > rfc5746. > > > > Should we note these in any way, other than as Informative References? > > > > Best, > > Karthik > > > > > > On 14 May 2015, at 10:52, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > >> > >> Folks - I note this didn't get an answer. I don't recall that the WG > >> considered it, and I'm sure if it had the conclusion could have gone > >> either way (and a random choice would have been fine too:-) but can > >> you confirm or correct me on that please? If you can do it before the > >> telechat today (by ~1400 UTC) that'd be great. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> S. > >> > >> On 09/05/15 23:52, Barry Leiba wrote: > >>> Barry Leiba has entered the following ballot position for > >>> draft-ietf-tls-session-hash-05: Discuss > >>> > >>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > >>> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > >>> introductory paragraph, however.) > >>> > >>> > >>> Please refer to > https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > >>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > >>> > >>> > >>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-session-hash/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> DISCUSS: > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> This is a DISCUSS purely because I want to discuss it; whatever the > >>> result is, I will be clearing the DISCUSS, and not delaying the > document > >>> on this point: The last paragraph of Section 4 makes me wonder whether > >>> this should "update" 5246. Basically, while this is an extension > (which > >>> wouldn't normally use "updates"), it's one that you're proposing as > >>> standard behavior, and not really as an extension. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> TLS mailing list > >>> TLS@ietf.org <javascript:;> > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls > >>> > > > >
- [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls-ses… Barry Leiba
- Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls… Karthikeyan Bhargavan
- Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls… Barry Leiba
- Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls… Nico Williams