Return-Path: X-Original-To: tls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841121A0218 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:57:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.366 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.366 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uqgDBFt_3_Xx for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a103.g.dreamhost.com (sub4.mail.dreamhost.com [69.163.253.135]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D95E1A01F7 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a103.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a103.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E482005E62C; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:57:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cryptonector.com; h=date :from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:in-reply-to; s=cryptonector.com; bh=Jsqe68egZS4wuF KHdJX0ExcPm/s=; b=Okk9jXL0nj7i5FAGKRpLuTnZO8vMtgg3vq9o4RdfSHwsEn hHxK+IZavAzxUPHwCgOV67WnOwP8TxxsPocrAKdPF8uNk2BLKGHCFOvGPo8cybpa GighQWj+GQ2+U1E2Ci9lc2ivc5kkfWhMjbJ/xlP9q6iTBkig2O+FOPhUoGLoM= Received: from localhost (108-207-244-100.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net [108.207.244.100]) (Authenticated sender: nico@cryptonector.com) by homiemail-a103.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 515582005E62A; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 12:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:57:32 -0500 From: Nico Williams To: Martin Thomson Message-ID: <20150916195729.GO13294@localhost> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Cc: "tls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [TLS] Call for consensus to remove anonymous DH X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 19:57:36 -0000 On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:40:28AM -0700, Martin Thomson wrote: > On 15 September 2015 at 18:00, Joseph Salowey wrote: > > remove anonymous DH > > +1 > > It's not like we're making the use case impossible, just that the > solution will look different. And will be more costly. I'm neutral on this, as I don't think the extra cost will lead to, say, MTAs forgoing TLS for SMTP. Nico --