Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

Darin Pettis <dpp.edco@gmail.com> Tue, 13 March 2018 22:08 UTC

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From: Darin Pettis <dpp.edco@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:07:47 +0000
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Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted
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Richard Barnes and Rich Salz,
Thank you for the kind words.   They are much appreciated!  Best of luck to
Rich with the health concerns too.

It’s been an interesting journey with a lot of great folks.  Will reply to
the issues later as I need to head out at the moment.

-Darin


On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:20 PM nalini elkins <nalini.elkins@e-dco.com>;
wrote:

> All,
>
> The time has gotten away from me.   I have to leave for the airport. I am
> taking my daughter to London & need to get us all packed & out of the house.
>
> I will write respond to all at length either from the airport or in London.
>
> Rich, so sorry about your health issues.  My best wishes for a full and
> complete recovery.
>
> Nalini
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:39 AM, Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com>; wrote:
>
>>
>>    - I am happy to set up an informal session where all can meet and
>>    talk quietly.   Not everyone will be there on Sunday but maybe Monday
>>    breakfast or during a break?  Just let me know if you are interested & we
>>    can make intros.
>>
>>
>>
>> I won’t be there (health issues), but I’ve already turned down such
>> private invites before.
>>
>>
>>
>> Standing up in front of a WG and talking about unpopular topics is hard.
>> As Richard said, kudo’s to USBank (and a BCBS org) for doing so.  But if
>> you’re not willing to do the hard work, then you don’t get to have the IETF
>> address your concerns.
>>
>>
>>
>> I remember saying before that I firmly believe that the main, and
>> unstated, reason for wanting an IETF RFC on this is so that would-be
>> customers can point to vendors and ask for a common solution at a lower
>> price because the ability is now commoditized.  With all due respect to the
>> people involved, I believe that is still the case.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have heard concerns that it is necessary to have a “speedy” solution.
>> Again, I strongly disagree with this. The standard organizations haven’t
>> even made TLS 1.0 illegal yet, as I said last time.  What makes you think
>> that something is needed in under five years?  I asked that question
>> before, too.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Nalini Elkins
> President
> Enterprise Data Center Operators
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