Re: [TLS] OCSP must staple

Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> Thu, 05 June 2014 12:40 UTC

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On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Stephen Farrell
<stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>
> Hiya,
>
> On 04/06/14 01:39, Sean Turner wrote:
>> I believe that draft has been abandoned in favor of:
>>
>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hallambaker-tlsfeature/
>>
>> Personally, I don’t think this draft is applicable to the TLS WG and
>> would be better suited as an AD sponsored draft.  I know PHB
>> approached me about sponsoring it but I think we both got busy before
>> the end of my term.  I’ve not doubt PHB will at some point approach
>> Stephen/Kathleen about sponsoring it.  If you’re interested in
>> supporting it, sending them a message might help
>> (sec-ads@tools.ietf.org).
>
> I did discuss AD sponsoring this with Phill and am fine with
> that plan since there is (I believe) support for implementing
> it in some browsers.
>
> So Phill - please tell me when you think this is ready and
> if possible recruit a document shepherd if you've not already.

With that answer in hand, I suggest that we first do an internal last
call on the draft currently on the table to see that everyone is
happy.

By which I simply mean, lets make get people to actually read that
particular draft rather than start a cabal. So if we give folks a week
and then we can go forward with the document shepherd?

I do need to write an IANA piece which I will do today. At the time I
wrote it the assignment was not an IANA one.

I am pretty sure the document is ready otherwise. I took out the bit
that allowed a minimum version of TLS to be specified after
discovering that is not practical from one of the browser providers.



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