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Re: [TLS] call for consensus: changes to IANA registry rules for cipher suites

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Thu, 31 March 2016 17:17 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: "Kaduk, Ben" <bkaduk@akamai.com>, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>, "<tls@ietf.org>" <tls@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] call for consensus: changes to IANA registry rules for cipher suites
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> I am not confident that adding this column will actually have a useful impact,
> but I think the experiment is worth performing.

I am very confident it will help.  For example, it now becomes a reasonable position for most TLS stacks to include only Y ciphersuites in their default source or build or deploy methods.  It will also have an effect on reducing clientHello cipher list sizes.

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