[TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for Post-quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Kris Kwiatkowski <kris=40amongbytes.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Bas Westerbaan <bas=40cloudflare.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for Post-quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3
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  *   I also see no reason to delay this document.

Same here. The draft adds things that were asked for, adding more is premature — start a draft and work it through the TLS WG if you want. Removing things opens a whole nasty issue with IANA and only serves to delay. Changing the recommended column might be nice, but the Web/browser market has already spoken, so why waste time stating something that’s already a fact; it will waste time as we argue about the other two options.

Publish this.