[TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-super-jumbo-record-limit-02 (Ends 2025-11-25)

Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Fri, 21 November 2025 04:06 UTC

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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2025 15:05:48 +1100
From: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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Subject: [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-super-jumbo-record-limit-02 (Ends 2025-11-25)
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This seems OK to me.

The document doesn't really say what "invalid" means for the length encoding.  Does that mean the record is ignored, or does the connection break?  I think that the answer is the former for DTLS, the latter for TLS.  (Allowing the connection to break was probably a mistake in RFC 8449, but I think that was because of the possibility of layering on SCTP or other reliable medium.)  It might be worth saying that receiving a record length that starts with 0b11 should be treated as though the record were over-sized.  Error handling for that is well-specified.

I would not worry about the size adjustments in the AEAD limits.  Those 256 bytes don't change things at all and I think that the limits apply to plaintext sizes anyway (which can be up to 2^14.

Typo: AES-CGM 

On Wed, Nov 5, 2025, at 01:55, Sean Turner via Datatracker wrote:
> Subject: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-super-jumbo-record-limit-02 (Ends
> 2025-11-25)
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> This message starts a 3-week WG Last Call for this document.
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> Abstract:
>    TLS 1.3 records limit the inner plaintext (TLSInnerPlaintext) size to
>    2^14 + 1 bytes, which includes one byte for the content type.
>    Records also have a 3-byte overhead due to the fixed opaque_type and
>    legacy_record_version fields.  This document defines a TLS extension
>    that allows endpoints to negotiate a larger maximum inner plaintext
>    size, up to 2^30 - 256 bytes, while reducing overhead.
>
> File can be retrieved from:
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