Re: [TLS] SHA-3 in SignatureScheme

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Fri, 02 September 2016 19:07 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
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We should not add new "this is [cool|national-standard|strong|emerging]"  crypto mechanisms to this spec.

Any invention we do here, should be around the protocol, not the crypto.
	/r$