Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-moriarty-tls-oldversions-diediedie-00.txt
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-moriarty-tls-oldversions-diediedie-00.txt
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On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 7:42 PM Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > Stephen and I posted the draft below to see if the TLS working group > is ready to take steps to deprecate TLSv1.0 and TLSv1.1. There has > been a recent drop off in usage for web applications due to the PCI > Council recommendation to move off TLSv1.0, with a recommendation to > go to TLSv1.2 by June 30th. Err, sorry, but – to make it one hundred per cent correct – it seems like PCI SSC has just deprecated TLS v1.0 _only_. "Migrating from SSL and Early TLS", version 1.1: "The best response is to disable SSL entirely and migrate to a more modern encryption protocol, which at the time of publication is a minimum of TLS v1.1" https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/documents/Migrating-from-SSL-Early-TLS-Info-Supp-v1_1.pdf draft-moriarty-diediedie also mentions PCI SSC requirements. Do I get anything wrong here?
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] raising ceiling vs. floor (was: New Ver… Hubert Kario
- Re: [TLS] raising ceiling vs. floor (was: New Ver… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] raising ceiling vs. floor (was: New Ver… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] raising ceiling vs. floor (was: New Ver… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] raising ceiling vs. floor (was: New Ver… Hubert Kario
- [TLS] raising ceiling vs. floor (was: New Version… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… nalini elkins
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-mor… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Loganaden Velvindron
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Alessandro Ghedini
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Andrei Popov
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Mill
- Re: [TLS] raising ceiling vs. floor (was: New Ver… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] raising ceiling vs. floor (was: New Ver… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] raising ceiling vs. floor (was: New Ver… David Benjamin
- Re: [TLS] raising ceiling vs. floor (was: New Ver… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] raising ceiling vs. floor (was: New Ver… Hubert Kario
- Re: [TLS] raising ceiling vs. floor (was: New Ver… Phil Pennock
- Re: [TLS] raising ceiling vs. floor (was: New Ver… Hubert Kario
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] [CAUTION] Re: Fwd: New Version Notifica… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] raising ceiling vs. floor (was: New Ver… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… nalini elkins
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] raising ceiling vs. floor (was: New Ver… Hubert Kario
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] [CAUTION] Re: Fwd: New Version Notifica… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… David Benjamin
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… nalini elkins
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Christopher Wood
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Hubert Kario
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Jeremy Harris
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Artyom Gavrichenkov
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Artyom Gavrichenkov