Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS extension RI w/MCSV
Martin Rex <mrex@sap.com> Fri, 11 December 2009 02:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS extension RI w/MCSV
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Michael Gray wrote: > > > in order to reliably provide this, > > > > - MCSV is defined to represent an empty TLS extension RI > > > > - MSCV MUST be included in *ALL* initial ClientHello handshakes > > messages _plus_ all renegotiation ClientHellos in backwards > > interop scenarios (independent of full handshake or session resume). > > > > - empty TLS extension RI MUST NOT be sent, ever! > > This looks good to me, the only thing I would change is I think MUST NOT > would be better as SHOULD NOT as the later requires that the implementer > examine the conditions and implications etc to make the best decision. You are right. I'm sorry. I got a little carried away. A SHOULD NOT for sending _empty_ TLS extension RI is more appropriate. -Martin
- [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS extension… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Michael Gray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Dieter Bratko
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Michael Gray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… tom.petch
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Steve Checkoway
- [TLS] Black hole was Re: Analysis of Interop scen… tom.petch
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Michael Gray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Michael Gray
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] Black hole was Re: Analysis of Interop … Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Black hole was Re: Analysis of Interop … Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] Black hole was Re: Analysis of Interop … Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Black hole was Re: Analysis of Interop … Bill Frantz
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Analysis of Interop scenarios TLS exten… Marsh Ray