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Thread-Topic: [TLS] WGLC: draft-ietf-tls-prohibiting-rc4-00
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>...........I've also seen such
>interop problems with Java (J2SE) client (using nio it seems),
>that will simply not interop with 3DES-EDE (nor AES128-SHA),
>and RC4 is the only alternative that works.

Could you please provide more information on this? What exactly did not
interoperate? And details, please?

Thanks!

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