Re: [TLS] EXTERNAL: Re: integrity only ciphersuites

[Ted Lemon <[e-mail]>]

What kind of bandwidth are we talking about here?   Also, could you answer
my question about IPsec?

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Jack Visoky <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Hi Ted,
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> A few points:
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> 1.       Don’t assume there is any browser involved.  There is often no
> browser.
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> 2.       Even if there is a browser (and see point 1 before assuming) any
> HTTP communication would be at a much much slower rate than machine to
> machine I/O
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> Hope that clears it up.
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> Thanks and Best Regards,
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> --Jack
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> *From:* Ted Lemon [mailto:[e-mail]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 21, 2018 1:39 PM
> *To:* Jack Visoky <[e-mail]>
> *Cc:* Salz, Rich <rsalz=[e-mail]>; Fries, Steffen <
> [e-mail]>; ncamwing=[e-mail];
> [e-mail]
> *Subject:* Re: [TLS] EXTERNAL: Re: integrity only ciphersuites
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> If the device implements the cipher so as to talk to the browser, it's
> clearly capable of implementing the cipher...
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> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Jack Visoky <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
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> Hi Rich,
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> I’m not sure if I’m following the question, but what was meant was that
> these ciphers are generally NOT used for browser access.  Machine to
> machine communication usually does not involve a browser.  Apologies if
> I’ve misunderstood the question.
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> Thanks and Best Regards,
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> --Jack
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> *From:* TLS [mailto:[e-mail]] *On Behalf Of *Salz, Rich
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 21, 2018 1:12 PM
> *To:* Fries, Steffen <[e-mail]>
> *Cc:* ncamwing=[e-mail]; [e-mail]
> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [TLS] integrity only ciphersuites
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> Now I think I am as confused as Stephen and others.
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> One justification was “small footprint.”  But now you’re saying that for
> debugging encryption (standard?) ciphers are used for browser access?
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