Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS
Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@sun.com> Fri, 12 October 2007 20:23 UTC
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:23:32 -0500
From: Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@sun.com>
To: Mike <mike-list@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 12:04:14PM -0700, Mike wrote: > Apparently no argument will suffice, and you would rather keep the > status quo than be proactive. How long do you think it would take > to add this extension to a TLS toolkit? In my own code, I could > probably do it in less than a day, with time left over to get in a > round of 18 holes. That's not a helpful argument. I suggest you go look at SASL's SSF concept and why noone cares for it. There's lots of mailing list archive material to wade through! Nico -- _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls
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