Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls-session-hash-05: (with DISCUSS)
Karthikeyan Bhargavan <karthik.bhargavan@gmail.com> Thu, 14 May 2015 08:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls-session-hash-05: (with DISCUSS)
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The session-hash draft has roughly the same impact as RFC5746, which says: "Updates: 5246, 4366, 4347, 4346, 2246" We would be happy to add this list or a subset. Other RFCs affected by the current proposal are: rfc5929, rfc5705, rfc5746. Should we note these in any way, other than as Informative References? Best, Karthik On 14 May 2015, at 10:52, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote: > > Folks - I note this didn't get an answer. I don't recall that the WG > considered it, and I'm sure if it had the conclusion could have gone > either way (and a random choice would have been fine too:-) but can > you confirm or correct me on that please? If you can do it before the > telechat today (by ~1400 UTC) that'd be great. > > Thanks, > S. > > On 09/05/15 23:52, Barry Leiba wrote: >> Barry Leiba has entered the following ballot position for >> draft-ietf-tls-session-hash-05: Discuss >> >> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all >> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this >> introductory paragraph, however.) >> >> >> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html >> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >> >> >> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-session-hash/ >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> DISCUSS: >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> This is a DISCUSS purely because I want to discuss it; whatever the >> result is, I will be clearing the DISCUSS, and not delaying the document >> on this point: The last paragraph of Section 4 makes me wonder whether >> this should "update" 5246. Basically, while this is an extension (which >> wouldn't normally use "updates"), it's one that you're proposing as >> standard behavior, and not really as an extension. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TLS mailing list >> TLS@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >>
- [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls-ses… Barry Leiba
- Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls… Karthikeyan Bhargavan
- Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls… Barry Leiba
- Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's Discuss on draft-ietf-tls… Nico Williams