Re: [TLS] "Notes" column in draft-ietf-tls-rfc8447bis?

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Thu, 11 May 2023 18:54 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 3:17 PM
To: "tls@ietf.org" <tls@ietf.org>
Subject: [TLS] "Notes" column in draft-ietf-tls-rfc8447bis?

I’m starting to write the draft about TLS 1.2 being frozen.

It occurred to me that every TLS registry might need a “notes” column.  If someone defines a new crypto algorithm, sat AEGIS being considered in CFRG, we want to assign it a number but have a note saying “only for TLS 1.3 and later”
We could make it be a simple yes/no column, like “Pre-1.3?” but I think that’s needlessly terse.

Does that make sense?