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[TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false claim of consensus to issue an RFC for draft-ietf-tls-mldsa

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Muhammad Usama Sardar <muhammad_usama.sardar@tu-dresden.de>, "tls@ietf.org" <tls@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false claim of consensus to issue an RFC for draft-ietf-tls-mldsa
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Not to go into an endless loop here, but just to mention: My technical objection is outstanding and has not been addressed to date.

I believe that it has. The WG has heard you. The consensus of the WG seems to be (I’m not a chair, just a participant), that your objection might be valid, but it is not a reason to stop doing what the draft says. The IETF does this often. There is no requirement that all objections or concerns be resolved, but rather that they be heard and given consideration.

As another example, there were patent concerns raised in the LAMPS working group about ML-DSA. Strenuously and repeatedly raised. The WG considered those claims and decided they were not a concern.

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