[TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus
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1. No. 2. If the previous "No" is not sufficient, then do not pursue both; choose only one. I think that means "Yes". 3. No. 4. No, but less strongly than the "No" for 3. On Mon, Sep 28, 2026 at 12:53 PM Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote: > At IETF 126, the chairs conducted a series of polls [1] to determine the > way forward for PQ+T hybrid signatures after hearing from the > -composite-mldsa [2] and -pqt-dual-certs [3] authors; you can watch the > setup, authors presentations, and the polls at [4] from around 0:16:47 > until 1:08:00. The polls' results showed in-room consensus to 1) work on PQ > + T Signatures for TLS and 2) work only on -composite-mldsa. The chairs now > need to confirm this consensus on list. We are going to do this by asking > the four questions that follow. Please take note of the take note of the > following: > > 1. Framing of the questions is found in this deck [5]; in case it is/was > not clear a "Yes" on Question 1 implies WG adoption of a draft. > 2. Again, a "Yes" for 3 or 4 implies you are in favor of adopting the > associated draft as a working group item. > 3. Based on the responses we got during the session we only asked the 1st > 4 questions in [5]. > > Please provide your answers to the following questions by 12 October 2026: > > 1. Should the WG work on PQ + T Hybrid Signatures for TLS? > 2. Should the WG only work on one: -pqt-dual-certs or -composite-ml-dsa? > 3. Should the WG work on: -pqt-dual-certs? > 4. Should the WG work on: -composite-ml-dsa? > > Cheers, > spt (for the chairs) > > [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/polls-126-tls-202607241600/ > [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-reddy-tls-composite-mldsa/ > [3] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yusef-tls-pqt-dual-certs/ > [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp1s1UMmhTI > [5] > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/126/materials/slides-126-tls-framing-pq-t-signatures-for-tls-00 > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to tls-leave@ietf.org >
- [TLS] Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatur… Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatur… Loganaden Velvindron
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Yaakov Stein
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Martin Thomson
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Russ Housley
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Confirming PQ+T Signatures C… Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Confirming PQ+T Signatures C… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Confirming PQ+T Signatures C… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Confirming PQ+T Signatures C… Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Confirming PQ+T Signatures C… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Confirming PQ+T Signatures C… Samuel Lee (ENS/Crypto)
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Confirming PQ+T Signatures C… Soatok Dreamseeker
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Confirming PQ+T Signatures C… Bellebaum, Thomas
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus David Benjamin
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Filippo Valsorda
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Confirming PQ+T Signatures C… Samuel Lee (ENS/Crypto)
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: [EXTERNAL] Confirming PQ+T Si… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Andrey Jivsov
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus tirumal reddy
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Bas Westerbaan
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus loic.ferreira
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus tirumal reddy
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus tirumal reddy
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Sophie Schmieg
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Paul Wouters
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Andrey Jivsov
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Soatok Dreamseeker
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Joe Birr-Pixton
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus olivier.sanders
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Daniel Van Geest
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Confirming PQ+T Signatures C… John Gray
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Confirming PQ+T Signatures C… Ira McDonald
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Richard Barnes
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Chase Abbott
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Jan Klaußner
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Ryan Appel
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Yaroslav Rosomakho
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Damien Miller
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Loganaden Velvindron
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Wang Guilin
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Hannes Tschofenig
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Bashiri, Kaveh
- [TLS] Re: Confirming PQ+T Signatures Consensus Dan Wing