[TLS] Re: WG Adoption Call for Post-Quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3

[David Benjamin <[e-mail]>]

On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 3:20 PM Christopher Wood <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Being concerned about the WG's time makes sense, but given that this is a
> case where the WG has gotten very very behind running code, hopefully we
> can try to stamp this one with minimal fuss and time spent. After all,
> we've already been debating the finer points of this one since before this
> document existed. To that end, I would suggest that we all try to progress
> this document quickly. :-)
>
>
> Definitely. Maybe we can adopt before Bangkok and then start WGLC
> immediately after. =)
>

+1


> Best,
> Chris
>
>
> David
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 2:45 PM Christopher Wood <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
>> As I understand it, the purpose of this draft is to specify an
>> interoperable key exchange mechanism that we can deploy. The draft already
>> has code points allocated to it, and they exist in the registry
>> <https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters/tls-parameters.xhtml#tls-parameters-8>,
>> so I wonder: what is the point of adopting this draft when the important
>> work is already done? If it’s that some folks won’t implement it until
>> there’s an RFC number assigned to it, well, that’s pretty silly. I support
>> adoption if it helps this work get implemented more broadly, but I think
>> it’s worth asking whether or not this is a good use of an already busy
>> working group’s time.
>>
>> Best,
>> Chris
>>
>> On Feb 26, 2025, at 1:26 PM, Sean Turner <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> At IETF 121, the WG discussed “Post-Quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key
>> Agreement for TLSv1.3”; see [0] and [1]. We also had some discussion in an
>> information gathering thread; see [2]. We would like to now determine
>> whether there is support to adopt this I-D. If you support adoption and are
>> willing to review and contribute text, please send a message to the list.
>> If you do not support adoption of this I-D, please send a message to the
>> list and indicate why. This WG adoption call will close at 2359 UTC on 12
>> March 2025.
>>
>> One special note: this adoption call has nothing to do with picking the
>> mandatory-to-implement cipher suites in TLS.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sean & Joe
>>
>> [0] Link to I-D:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem/
>> [1] Link to slides:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/121/materials/slides-121-tls-post-quantum-hybrid-ecdhe-mlkem-key-agreement-for-tlsv13-00
>> [2] Link to information gather thread:
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/yGZV5dBTcxHJhG-JtfaP6beTd68/
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