Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS
Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Tue, 09 October 2007 22:30 UTC
Return-path: <tls-bounces@lists.ietf.org>
Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IfNab-0008Bc-9w; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:30:09 -0400
Received: from tls by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IfNaZ-00088t-MH for tls-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:30:07 -0400
Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IfNaZ-00088l-Cj for tls@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:30:07 -0400
Received: from balder-227.proper.com ([192.245.12.227]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IfNaY-0006X3-2Q for tls@lists.ietf.org; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:30:07 -0400
Received: from [192.168.1.100] (pool-72-76-39-171.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net [72.76.39.171]) (authenticated bits=0) by balder-227.proper.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l99MTa5Q019983 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 9 Oct 2007 15:29:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Message-Id: <p0624082fc331b0ed0ecc@[192.168.1.100]>
In-Reply-To: <c331d99a0710080621g7c0ec91et35c46553c23f4402@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c331d99a0710080621g7c0ec91et35c46553c23f4402@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:29:33 -0400
To: Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <nmav@gnutls.org>, tls@lists.ietf.org
From: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
Subject: Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
X-Scan-Signature: d17f825e43c9aed4fd65b7edddddec89
Cc:
X-BeenThere: tls@lists.ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." <tls.lists.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls>, <mailto:tls-request@lists.ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www1.ietf.org/pipermail/tls>
List-Post: <mailto:tls@lists.ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:tls-request@lists.ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls>, <mailto:tls-request@lists.ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: tls-bounces@lists.ietf.org
Ekr's right: this is not a tractable problem. We could certainly come up with some numbers, but they would be meaningless (and therefore dangerous) with so much context that we might as well have just given the context by itself. The fact that the W3C wants to wade into this swamp should not lead us there, other than to maybe offer them a rope back to the shore where they started. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls
- [TLS] security levels for TLS Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Yngve Nysaeter Pettersen
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Paul Hoffman
- RE: [TLS] security levels for TLS Kemp, David P.
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Mike
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Mike
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Nicolas Williams
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Nicolas Williams
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Mike
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Mike
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Mike
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Nicolas Williams
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Nicolas Williams
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Mike
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Mike
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Nicolas Williams
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Mike
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Mike
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Mike
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Mike
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Mike
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS Paul Hoffman