[TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for Post-quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Joseph Salowey <joe@salowey.net>, "<tls@ietf.org>" <tls@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [TLS] Working Group Last Call for Post-quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3
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Subject: [TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for Post-quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3
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These are not MTI algorithms, so the patent concerns, if there are any, do not apply.

The draft is ready for publication.