Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF100: Agenda Requests

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Sun, 05 November 2017 19:05 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@nomountain.net>, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Thread-Topic: [TLS] TLS@IETF100: Agenda Requests
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Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF100: Agenda Requests
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➢ At any rate, the discussion of the proposal, if there is to be one,
    belongs on the mailing list.  Having the discussion and coming to
    a conclusion 1) during a meeting 2) where none of the proponents
    is present seems like an abuse of process to me

I asked for time so that we could discuss it.  Of course, all decisions are confirmed on the mailing list and I never meant otherwise.  Sorry for assuming everyone understood.