[TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for Post-quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3

Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> Mon, 13 October 2025 15:53 UTC

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Subject: [TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for Post-quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3
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Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> writes:

> The current document has Recommended=N for *all* the algorithms. Above, I
> proposed changing them to Y, which would also entail changing the document
> to be Proposed Standard. We've now heard a number of counterproposals,
> including (1) leave as-is (2) just mark X25519 Y (3) take out the NIST
> curves.
>
> At this point it's not clear to me that any of these has consensus, so that
> chairs need to work that out. However, given that there have been a number
> of objections to (3), I doubt very much that that would pass WGLC (and I,
> at least, would object to it.).

Do you have any technical argument against separating the widely
deployed X25519MLKEM768 (which I believe ought to be
StandardsTrack/Recommended=Y) from the more marginal NIST curves (which
I believe are more appropriate as Informational/Recommended=N)?

/Simon