Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF99 - Additional Session Added and Agenda Bash!

Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net> Fri, 14 July 2017 18:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF99 - Additional Session Added and Agenda Bash!
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On Fri 2017-07-14 10:51:14 -0400, Sean Turner wrote:
> The Secretariat has allocated us the Monday @ 13:30-15:30 slot.

hm, that's disappointing for those of us who had other things we'd
planned on going to already in that slot. :/  But it's not on the agenda
yet, so maybe it has been changed already?

    https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/agenda.html

> Because the main point of the TLS WG are the TLS and DTLS drafts and
> the schedule was already announced, we want to leave those
> presentations on Wednesday.  What follows is a revised agenda; note
> that we’ve alloced 40 minutes for further about
> draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13.  Please let us know your thoughts.

As Stephen points out, it looks like we've allocated 80 minutes to the
topic of how to remove the forward secrecy guarantees that we've
struggled for over a year to introduce.  That's more than we've
allocated for the "main point of the TLS WG", which are only 65 minutes
combined.

    --dkg