Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS
Ted Krovetz <ted@krovetz.net> Mon, 12 August 2013 01:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS
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> Do you think the benefits of Chacha motivate > ignoring the time that went into reviewing Salsa20? The nice thing about Chacha is that most of the Salsa analysis applies. The only differences between the two algorithms is (1) the ordering of the initial and final 16 word state, and (2) two rotation distances. I believe that Dan Bernstein has said that he believes (1) has no security consequences and that (2) improves security. If I were choosing between the two, yes, I'd be willing to transfer my confidence from Salsa to Chacha and use that. -Ted
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Rene Struik
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Nick Mathewson
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Ted Krovetz
- [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Nico Williams
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Ben Laurie
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Geoffrey Keating
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Ben Laurie
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Ted Krovetz
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Simon Josefsson
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Blumenthal, Uri - 0558 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] Salsa20 and Poly1305 in TLS Ted Krovetz