Re: [TLS] chairs - please shutdown wiretapping discussion...

Sean Turner <> Mon, 10 July 2017 16:58 UTC

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After some discussion amongst the chairs, we have decided to not shut down the discussion about draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13.  We are not shutting down this discussion because this topic is relevant to the constituents on both sides of the issue in the working group and there is a concrete proposal to discuss.  Now that we know the authors are going to ask for WG adoption, the resulting working group's consensus or lack of consensus on this approach will be useful information for other discussions that will happen in the broader IETF community regardless of the outcome.  Further, we intend for consensus on the issue to be called quickly.

We also do not believe that this discussion is derailing the TLS1.3 draft, we are consistently surprised by the WG’s bandwidth and the draft is out for a 2nd targeted WGLC.  As far as DTLS1.3, the specification is coming along but is not at a critical point where we believe this discussion will greatly detract from its development.


> On Jul 8, 2017, at 05:17, Stephen Farrell <> wrote:
> Sean/Joe,
> This is a request that you, as chairs, shut down the distracting
> wiretapping discussion, at least until DTLS1.3 is done.
> I have planned to spend time reading draft 21 and DTLS, but that
> won't happen if we keep having to fight off the latest attempts
> to break TLS. I'd not be surprised if I weren't the only one
> finding that distraction an irritating waste of time. Finishing
> TLS1.3 and getting DTLS1.3 on the way surely needs to not be
> constantly de-railed by these attempts to break TLS.
> Therefore I'd ask that you declare this discussion closed for at
> least that long (i.e until DTLS1.3 is done).
> I'd also ask that you not allocate agenda time for wiretapping
> in Prague.
> Thanks,
> S.
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