Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resumption
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Subject: Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resumption
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On 19/07/2021 15:16, Salz, Rich wrote: > I support publication. I don't, though I may be in the rough. We did discuss this a bit earlier but from my POV this adds a new vector for cross-domain tracking and we ought be removing those, not adding them. I don't find the reference to [FETCH] explains how that problem can be mitigated by browsers. (IIRC, adding that was the result of earlier discussion of this point?) I have no idea if anything similar might protect mail user agents when processing mailbug URLs, not other applications using TLS. To give a small sense of scale, in scans I did a few years back [1], one wild-card certificate [2] was visible at almost 2000 addresses in a range of different countries. That appeared to be part of some multi-product marketing campaign. (The names seen associated with the wildcard cert were of the form "<product>.campaign.<marketing-company>" and the wildcard was for "*.campaign.<marketing-company>".) Another certificate (sorry had a quick look but didn't find the specific ref) for parked domains had 1500 SANs. I think both of those are indicators that this mechanism could be used at scale for tracking. Cheers, S. [1] https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/299 [2] https://crt.sh/?id=242683192 > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resumption/ > > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >
- [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resumption Christopher Wood
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Michael StJohns
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Ryan Sleevi
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… David Benjamin
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… David Benjamin
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… David Benjamin
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… David Benjamin
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… David Benjamin
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Christopher Wood
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Carrick Bartle
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… David Benjamin
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Carrick Bartle
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… David Benjamin
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Carrick Bartle
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Carrick Bartle
- Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-cross-sni-resum… Christopher Wood