Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS
Eric Rescorla <ekr@networkresonance.com> Sat, 13 October 2007 07:40 UTC
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Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:36:13 -0700
From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@networkresonance.com>
To: Mike <mike-list@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [TLS] security levels for TLS
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At Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:42:22 -0700, Mike wrote: > >> Negatives: > >> > >> - effort is needed to write a specification and approve it > >> - a server may not support the extension, so a client may > >> have to implement an inefficient renegotiation scheme in > >> addition anyway > > > > - It encourages an inappropriate focus on key size. As I said already, > > There's a lot more to security than key size. > > But key size -is- a big part of it, and you should be able to tell > a server what key sizes you want, rather than leave it up to chance. To sharpen the point I was trying to make earlier, once you're using keys in the 1024-bit range, there are actually a number of other factors which are of equivalent if not larger importance to key size. These include: - The quality of PRNG used to generate the key. - Whether the key is being securely stored (e.g, in an HSM). - When we're talking DH, whether each ephemeral is fresh, and the structure of the DH group. - Which server is in use. - Whether the server software is up to date. The last two in particular are of vastly more importance than key size. I have never heard of a 1024-bit RSA key being cracked, yet I'm aware of remote vulnerabilities in every major C-based SSL server. These vulnerabilities lead to far easier private key extraction than factoring the modulus. -Ekr _______________________________________________ TLS mailing list TLS@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls
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