[TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false claim of consensus to issue an RFC for draft-ietf-tls-mldsa
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From: "Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <uri@ll.mit.edu>
To: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
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>>> I'm not mad or anything, >> >> I can’t express how happy this reassurance makes me. > > Sounds like not much. Au contraire! 😃 > But call me back when you've managed Mozilla's NSS and Rust teams. :) My strong decades-long preference has been to stay technical, and avoid managing people. Through industrial research years, where/when most of my RFCs were written and published, and after that. Even leading technical/project teams is too much now — though I do have my scars. > That's a lot different from an academic task. After all, it's rough consensus and running code. How would I know — my SNMP code has/had been running in all of the IBM products, including AS/400 (you can appreciate this fact only if you know what kind of beast that nice machine is). A pity you weren’t around during the “great battles” of SNMPv2 — that’s when the “roughness” of the consensus (and the clashes of the “key” participants) truly shone. 😃 > Both approaches are valuable. Back in the 90-ties, I was sure of that. Now, observing the role that (some) academics play in discussions in this WG — not so sure anymore. BTW, I’m doing R&D, not “academic research” — in case it matters (which it probably doesn’t, but then electrons are cheap).
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false cla… Jacob Appelbaum
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false cla… Paul Wouters
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false cla… Jacob Appelbaum
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false cla… Paul Wouters
- [TLS] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding false cla… Jacob Appelbaum
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Peter C
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Ryan Appel
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: Complaint to chairs regarding… Muhammad Usama Sardar