Re: [TLS] WG adoption + early code point assignment: draft-mavrogiannopoulos-chacha-tls

Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com> Tue, 23 June 2015 21:05 UTC

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From: Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] WG adoption + early code point assignment: draft-mavrogiannopoulos-chacha-tls
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On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com>; wrote:

> No, I actually meant DHE. DHE is hardly used. Any cryptographic library
> new enough to support ChaCha20 will also support ECDHE, which is faster
> than DHE and does not have the baggage of interoperability with legacy
> implementations that only support 1024 bits.
>
> I thought that we should just deprecate DHE and not even do the
> negotiated-ff-dhe draft.


I'll just reiterate I'm +1 with you.

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Tony Arcieri