Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion so far
Martin Rex <mrex@sap.com> Thu, 17 December 2009 22:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion so far
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Kyle Hamilton wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:13 AM, <Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com> wrote: > > (wearing Area Director hat) > > > > - We recommend that TLS libraries SHOULD provide identity matching > > (with memcmp, abort handshake if changed) functionality to > > applications, and SHOULD allow applications to enable/disable this > > functionality. > > No, identity matching SHOULD be done in accordance with PKIX. memcmp > is not at all sufficient. > > However, I would support the following: > > - TLS libraries SHOULD provide identity matching services between and > throughout renegotiation handshakes. Libraries SHOULD implement this > in accordance with PKIX [PKIX], but MAY do so with a direct memory > comparison. Implementors are cautioned that this latter approach does > not provide for changing the cipher parameters -- such as a > renegotiation with an EC or DH certificate after identification with > an RSA certificate. If the identity matching service fails to match > the identity, implementations MUST abort the handshake with a fatal > bad_certificate alert. The way the TLS specifications are currently archtected, this is a service that is _not_ available from TLS. Although there is likely some PKI(X)-Software available to the TLS implementation for the X.509 stuff and certificate path validation processing, but it can easily be that it is a completely different module. If an application currently wants to look at the contents of the certificates exchanged and authenticated during the TLS handshake, then this is explicitly declared out-of-scope for TLS in the base spec (RFC-5246, section 1. last paragraph). I would strongly recommend to leave the code slicing (modularization) between application, PKI-Software and TLS-implementation outside the scope of this spec. -Martin
- [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion so f… Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Blumenthal, Uri - 0662 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Stefan Santesson
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Michael Gray
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Kyle Hamilton
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Michael Gray
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Michael Gray
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Michael Gray
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Kyle Hamilton
- [TLS] OpenPGP Certs for TLS [was: Re: Summarizing… Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Blumenthal, Uri - 0662 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Kyle Hamilton
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Kyle Hamilton
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Blumenthal, Uri - 0662 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Joseph Salowey (jsalowey)
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Nasko Oskov
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Joseph Salowey (jsalowey)
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Pasi.Eronen
- Re: [TLS] Summarizing identity change discussion … Joseph Salowey (jsalowey)