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Re: [TLS] Proposed text for removing renegotiation

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Thu, 12 June 2014 16:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] Proposed text for removing renegotiation
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On Jun 12, 2014, at 9:20 AM, David Holmes <d.holmes@f5.com> wrote:

> I'm not suggesting that this data moves the conversation about renegotiation one way or the other.

It certainly is good data that some/many of your customers (who I believe could be labelled as "typical") have little understanding of understanding what renegotiation is for. To me, that supports the "scrap it" argument.

--Paul Hoffman

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