[TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (Ends 2026-02-27)
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Subject: [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (Ends 2026-02-27)
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 3:26 PM Robert Relyea <rrelyea=40redhat.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > On 2/20/26 5:38 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > I support publication as a stable reference for the already allocated > > code point that sports multiple implementations. > > I support publication as well, for exactly Vikor's reason. > > There is some feeling that publication == endorsement. Almost all the > arguments against is 'hybrid is better, so it should be preferred'. I > agree that is the case. I also know that I have customers that, despite > our recommendations will want to 'pure' ML-KEM. > > The fact is the exact same thing will be carried out independent of this > acceptance: > > We (and other libraries) will end up implementing this draft (whether it > is published or not), and making 'pure' ML-KEM default off and require > work to turn it on. We now (and will continue) to default to hybrid > x25519mlkem as our preferred algorithm (and have since before that draft > was approved). > > Publishing the draft simple means "If you must do this, this is how". The codepoint registration is all you need for that. > > > > > At least for OpenSSL, I don't expect publication to shift the needle > > from "implemented" to "enabled by default" (in clients and servers). > > The pure ML-KEM groups are not included in the default supported groups > > list and there are no plans to change that. For a pure ML-KEM group to > > be used as the source of the key agreement shared secret it needs to be > > explicitly enabled on **both** ends and preferred by whichever side's > > preference order is taken into account by the server. > > > > Meanwhile, the X25519MLKEM768 hybrid has been enabled by default for > > almost a year, and will surely continue to be far more common in > > practice. > > > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to tls-leave@ietf.org -- Astra mortemque praestare gradatim
- [TLS] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (Ends… Joseph Salowey
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Ben Schwartz
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf… Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf… Ben Schwartz
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf… Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Russ Housley
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Ben Schwartz
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Quynh Dang
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Simon Josefsson
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Joshua
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Russ Housley
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Paul Wouters
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… D. J. Bernstein
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… sanketh
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Sophie Schmieg
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… sanketh
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Filippo Valsorda
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… D. J. Bernstein
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Russ Housley
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Sophie Schmieg
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Yaroslav Rosomakho
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Quynh Dang
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Dan Wing
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nick Sullivan
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Yaroslav Rosomakho
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Kurt Roeckx
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nicola Tuveri
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Izzy Grosof
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Paul Wouters
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Peter C
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Thom Wiggers
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Simon Josefsson
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Andrey Jivsov
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Jack Grigg
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Marc Penninga
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Jack Grigg
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Kurt Roeckx
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Robert Relyea
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Jack Grigg
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Thom Wiggers
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Joseph Salowey
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Izzy Grosof
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Paul Wouters
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Toerless Eckert
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Bas Westerbaan
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Paul Wouters
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Tanja Lange
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… DA PIEVE Fabiana
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Toerless Eckert
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Thom Wiggers
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Paul Wouters
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Jacob Appelbaum
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… David Stainton
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Ivan Visconti
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Izzy Grosof
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Benjamin Kaduk
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Yaakov Stein
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Andrey Jivsov
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Tibor Jager
- [TLS] Discuss 2^64 reuse bounds, or omit? WG Last… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Added issues on github Re: Re: WG Last Call… Toerless Eckert
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Tibor Jager
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Tibor Jager
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Joshua
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Bas Westerbaan
- [TLS] Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid | Re:… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Izzy Grosof
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Tanja Lange
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Yaakov Stein
- [TLS] Re: Discuss 2^64 reuse bounds, or omit? WG … Joshua
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: Discuss 2^64 reuse bounds, or omit? WG … Filippo Valsorda
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Peter C
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Joshua
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… David Stainton
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Ludovic Perret
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Tibor Jager
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Izzy Grosof
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Izzy Grosof
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… Benjamin Kaduk
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Christoph Striecks
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: Discuss 2^64 reuse bounds, or omit? WG … Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Keegan Dasilva Barbosa
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… David Adrian
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… Benjamin Kaduk
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… Viktor Dukhovni
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… Loganaden Velvindron
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… Peter Gutmann
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… Ilari Liusvaara
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid … Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… Benjamin Kaduk
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… Benjamin Kaduk
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Wang Guilin
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… Stephen Farrell
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid … Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid … Watson Ladd
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-05 (… Bellebaum, Thomas
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-07 (… Wang Guilin
- [TLS] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid vs non-hybrid |… Thom Wiggers
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid … Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid … Andrei Popov
- [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Proposed Text on hybrid … Paul Wouters
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… Deirdre Connolly
- [TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-… David Adrian
- [TLS] Encouraging European Commission Engagement … John Mattsson
- [TLS] Re: Encouraging European Commission Engagem… DA PIEVE Fabiana