Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

Artyom Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com> Thu, 15 March 2018 00:14 UTC

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From: Artyom Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 00:14:22 +0000
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a) Nalini, I haven't posted anything even slightly close to the examples of
offending messages you've just written.

b) Is this the only message of mine that deserves a response?

14 Mar. 2018 г., 19:00 nalini elkins <nalini.elkins@e-dco.com>;:

> >>One strategy that's very effective for overcoming resistance to bad
>> ideas is to keep pushing the idea until nobody who's resisting it can
>> afford to continue doing so.
>>
>
> >There's a name for that tactics, it's called "consensus by exhaustion".
> (On the recent GNSO meeting this was briefly discussed as an issue within
> ICANN.)
>
>
> Guys, I know it is a lot of fun to talk about how others do not have the
> brains that God gave a termite and that maybe they are even the spawn of
> the devil.
>
> But, let's just use Occam's razor.   Or as I tell my daughter, "if you
> hear hoof beats, it is likely not a zebra, it is a horse".
>
> The simple explanation is that people think they will have serious issues
> with TLS1.3 and actually, TLS1.2 when it is DH only.
>
> Nalini
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 4:45 PM, Artyom Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com>;
> wrote:
>
>> 13 Mar. 2018 г., 18:38 Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>;:
>>
>>> One strategy that's very effective for overcoming resistance to bad
>>> ideas is to keep pushing the idea until nobody who's resisting it can
>>> afford to continue doing so.
>>>
>>
>> There's a name for that tactics, it's called "consensus by exhaustion".
>> (On the recent GNSO meeting this was briefly discussed as an issue within
>> ICANN.)
>>
>>>
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> --
> Thanks,
> Nalini Elkins
> President
> Enterprise Data Center Operators
> www.e-dco.com
>
>