Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS master secret
Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> Tue, 02 February 2010 19:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS master secret
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Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> writes: >>There is one thing in draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext-00.txt >>that bothers me: There is no requirement that additional random data is >>generated using cryptographic principles. This means the extension can >>be used as a general-purpose extension mechanism to exchange data that >>has meaning to, for example, some middle-ware that sits between the >>client and server. >> >>Is this the intention? I'm assuming no, and that the >>additional_random_value actually are intended to be, well, just an >>additional random value. > > Correct. That's why the document says: > The recipient of an additional_random extension MUST NOT try to parse > the additional_random_value. I noticed that, but as I (perhaps incorrectly) interpreted "recipient" to mean "client or server", I was left with an uncertainty whether or not the extension was intended for transporting data (e.g., authorization information) intended for middle-ware. >>Therefor, I would suggest that a new requirement is added: >> >> The client and server MUST generate the additional_random_value data >> using a secure random number generator. [RANDOM] provides guidance >> on the generation of random values. >>... >> [RANDOM] Eastlake, D., 3rd, Schiller, J., and S. Crocker, >> "Randomness Requirements for Security", BCP 106, RFC 4086, >> June 2005. > > This is a great addition, thanks. It will be in the -01. That solves my issues with two documents, and I support their publication. Thanks, Simon
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Stefan Santesson
- [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS master … Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Brian Smith
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Brian Smith
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Bill Frantz
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Jeffrey A. Williams
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] New drafts: adding input to the TLS mas… James Manger