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I removed all these recommendations on 128/256 security. I believe this
address this thread.

I also believe a profile document would be useful and detail these details.
Do you have any opinion about such a document ?

Tank you for the feed backs!

Yours,
Daniel

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 8 November 2016 at 21:08, Daniel Migault <daniel.migault@ericsson.com>
> wrote:
> > TLS enable curve negotiation but not for code point. This makes
> restrictions
> > on code points hard to implement.  As a result Endpoints MAY treat
> > negotiation of key sizes smaller than the lower limits as a connection
> error
> > of type insufficient_security(71) for TLS 1.2 and TLS 1.3.
>
> I really had a hard time parsing this.  You don't connect this to
> Diffie-Hellman at all, but I think that is what you are talking about.
> But if your point is that this is an ECDHE-specific draft, then you
> don't need to say anything at all.
>
> nit "TLS enables"
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>I removed all these recommendations on 128/256 s=
ecurity. I believe this address this thread. <br><br>I also believe a profi=
le document would be useful and detail these details. Do you have any opini=
on about such a document ?<br><br></div><div>Tank you for the feed backs!<b=
r><br></div>Yours, <br></div>Daniel<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Martin Thomson =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:martin.thomson@gmail.com" target=3D=
"_blank">martin.thomson@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On 8 November 2016 at 21:08, Daniel Migault=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daniel.migault@ericsson.com">daniel.migault@ericsson=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; TLS enable curve negotiation but not for code point. This makes restri=
ctions<br>
&gt; on code points hard to implement.=C2=A0 As a result Endpoints MAY trea=
t<br>
&gt; negotiation of key sizes smaller than the lower limits as a connection=
 error<br>
&gt; of type insufficient_security(71) for TLS 1.2 and TLS 1.3.<br>
<br>
</span>I really had a hard time parsing this.=C2=A0 You don&#39;t connect t=
his to<br>
Diffie-Hellman at all, but I think that is what you are talking about.<br>
But if your point is that this is an ECDHE-specific draft, then you<br>
don&#39;t need to say anything at all.<br>
<br>
nit &quot;TLS enables&quot;<br>
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