Re: [TLS] Draft TLS Extension for Path Validation

Robert Moskowitz <rgm-sec@htt-consult.com> Wed, 25 May 2022 17:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] Draft TLS Extension for Path Validation
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I am working with Ashley and Rob Segers of FAA on this.  I don't make 
any claims of being able to comment on the TLS content.  I am providing 
IETF mentoring.  I work with Rob in ICAO TFSG items.


We want this discussed at IETF114.  Perhaps in SECDISPATCH if it does 
not need its own BOF.  Or as a TLS topic.

Bob

On 5/25/22 12:40, Ashley Kopman wrote:
> Hi TLS,
>
> I have just submitted a draft TLS Extension for Path Validation 
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-segers-tls-cert-validation-ext-00.txt 
>
>
> The proposal is for a Path Validation Extension to provide a 
> new protocol for TLS/DTLS allowing inclusion of certificate path 
> validation information in the TLS/DTLS handshake. Specifically, 
> it covers the use of Server-based Certificate Validation Protocol 
> (SCVP) for path validation.
>
> We are also finalizing a use case for civil aviation air-to-ground 
> communications which should be submitted in the next day.
>
> Please have a look at the draft and provide feedback.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Ashley Kopman
>
>
>
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