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Re: [TLS] EXTERNAL: TLS 1.3 Authentication and Integrity only Cipher Suites

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Thu, 11 February 2021 02:02 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Jack Visoky <jmvisoky=40ra.rockwell.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, John Mattsson <john.mattsson=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "TLS@ietf.org" <TLS@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [TLS] EXTERNAL: TLS 1.3 Authentication and Integrity only Cipher Suites
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 02:01:52 +0000
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Subject: Re: [TLS] EXTERNAL: TLS 1.3 Authentication and Integrity only Cipher Suites
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> I would just like to recognize that there are some situations where it isn't needed.

Can you explain why TLS 1.2 isn't good enough for your needs?

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