Re: [TLS] [OPSEC] Call For Adoption: draft-wang-opsec-tls-proxy-bp

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Mon, 27 July 2020 12:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] [OPSEC] Call For Adoption: draft-wang-opsec-tls-proxy-bp
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Hi Rich,

On 27/07/2020 13:37, Salz, Rich wrote:
> Not adopting this seems to be ignoring reality. 

That depends on the "this" though. This "this" seems
to me to be very much ok with mitm'ing, while doing
a little bit to recognise the downsides of mitm'ing.
I'm not objecting to attempts to describe reality,
but am rather arguing that achieving rough consensus
on something starting from that "this" is not worth
the effort, as we've I think seem demonstrated a
couple of time recently.

Cheers,
S.

> There are places
> which use TLS intermediaries. Are those users not welcome here?
> 
> I support adoption.
> 
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