Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext (Additional Random
"Kemp, David P." <DPKemp@missi.ncsc.mil> Tue, 27 April 2010 12:51 UTC
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From: "Kemp, David P." <DPKemp@missi.ncsc.mil>
To: Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext (Additional Random
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I'm not sure why an entropy pool would not be considered "truly random" by any of the three criteria you cited. If there is insufficient physically-generated entropy (such as on an appliance with no hard drives, no user timing input, and all other sources observable or predictable) then the process is not applicable - it cannot create entropy by magic. But by what criteria would it fail to be truly random (albeit at a much lower rate than dedicated hardware) on an uncompromised user desktop? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Dean Anderson [mailto:dean@av8.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 6:25 AM To: Kemp, David P. Cc: ietf@ietf.org; tls@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext (Additional Random > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_random_number_generator The link you cite above is an example of the extra hardware that most people don't have. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//dev/random The link you cite above isn't a truly random number generator. --Dean -- Av8 Internet Prepared to pay a premium for better service? www.av8.net faster, more reliable, better service 617 256 5494
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Russ Housley
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Kemp, David P.
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Nicolas Williams
- [TLS] RNG vs. PRNG Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Kemp, David P.
- Re: [TLS] RNG vs. PRNG Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Nicolas Williams
- Re: [TLS] RNG vs. PRNG Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] RNG vs. PRNG Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] RNG vs. PRNG Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Dean Anderson
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional… Sean Turner