From achimkraus@gmx.net Fri Apr 5 04:54:21 2024 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD86CC1516E0 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2024 04:54:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmx.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a_YPPhBNGr1S for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2024 04:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A88AEC14F702 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2024 04:54:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.net; s=s31663417; t=1712318053; x=1712922853; i=achimkraus@gmx.net; bh=4kr9tIIkpnPubKSukFEOcPj8P7sEMWBa3B9x5zLF1lI=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=aFyBVZHXUf79yrlhP73Ho+15NKeVttRNOcslD3k9ZdTlPz78/ZwotgiXdF8ctmlZ vv2dD5VQZhlShg4zZZhwG01W4EH3d5R7IZ1NQpE63XtScsA0Qm+xzo8QR2xJebMSI 3/IRVdZzgfbGi96wzKAMd7wlkjUjzZSQsou10F65ehksG46Kz5hFDaC1+Vt39c6dS KrCsLNBkmp3LKZ7mvFelf0hMowcWiH96bLOD4+GMK/ZnC76IXRjzS3tcc9e10QkUm EZffKgkuKbKA5+s49uaLkrAvt+bbh9CC5QTK2zS5IBCOurqUGWwFYONUQr0X+jFvw JI6iWM3yfzDVvbSxpw== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from [192.168.178.10] ([88.152.185.155]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MIMfc-1s4mxd2fNE-00EJ8p; Fri, 05 Apr 2024 13:54:13 +0200 Message-ID: <70c9b9ff-14fa-4b2f-8d90-2b1a0f1ebf15@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2024 13:54:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: Stephen Farrell , Andrea Vesco , "tls@ietf.org" References: <7d194dc8-65b0-4df5-9ef0-410a38af9e1e@cs.tcd.ie> Content-Language: de-AT-frami, en-US From: Achim Kraus In-Reply-To: <7d194dc8-65b0-4df5-9ef0-410a38af9e1e@cs.tcd.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:meTar8MpkkDRD3f1ACRrwdCzoLOF7eCUnw5C5gxSfw3gD0/xY0h HiKRvUrF/aWXvE+rOXu2eOqPdXW7r/JHR7Un6kjDAi36wydXpigAfCpR9xrlUCiYc9dNqGQ cpTrWyI1J3yjP9KXN1XuZpny/DnGOgnoA6iA52u5yl6YKLPh1W30HTskrzHJ9n7xJxSi8fZ q5mVJEXbUyYg7uvg9vnUQ== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:5DGsmCqDhfE=;xt815322E3Y0ySrGs8n/QZ9GEua QhYpDOKEDoNS5LduWEdiHMwVSnQfFwpnQBEHiAW0olbWhjLR02weetgGBK7Te2hKRqA1qcFbg PKyf3d0R03qJEQYJSTSGrPlLyWPiy+UZUh/PytTV/DPze1k9GO4Q7k713me7ToVuGNkKxd77a 3kVmx3p/wsuDONPrs3rIx1z99Be9X5/rdByWp3v2/z6KZjEDaJmjkzFWSzhTEdlznlHfy7Go/ j5zwn9xEl5+o16VDbb8ibT0rD101fASvoJZfl9HR90b3Ab2sY6hOG5zEeE+1+etSZ7DCkfbpI UV/WuteqaXru7jD5yT05aUxz5pxoSKl4Oagp+uw4yYdDfT4VL4m66auleA6Np9J4l5qaxCCJ2 OkHfgIVAV0ABwW1n1APu5FfY6Xc5adeEk5T9xv99sUCIZQlfOryVsm8W1ctaR9WL5FgWXE/7U uadc1wl/TuUDuUjq9qL+RivZC8xVF7Se201Li0kvj9RlxTt005Ogm1tIrQdtCVwgJCThB5/3q JrC920d4qivwE3QB3zKp3Nc1XGwZruOqaIPbwdD5mAHnpXXo0u2Hh90HUxOB5Q1cPFbznbH5i 8sZQQ4XSWRMhIjScju6RjAto3WnnnSf8TMjPzVrMLqSbU1GPwUL0z+r/3tK4eRf+izgd5Ox5B cnM7OGIsPF9yx4UdLEz3tnXyWPXpBD6gHwlJIQavFdpQ5mfJybrGFKNf6OBeoxLSuEbLWKXpb mMDZuHs6KjRxxsHvStfyTPf/BIAH4RkmcPQqgAtOToI/87nUcQwHjDTNBkbZRgSOUQBya6EFs PKzBL6Uh6CWTF/e8bCrLtzwvyxaZ3MlsHAT4qZ7Hsj5iY= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [TLS] I-D on TLS authentication with VC X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2024 11:54:21 -0000 Hi, > On that basis, I'd consider this a bad idea that > ought not be pursued, and certainly not by the TLS > WG. for me this sounds more like an argument for a "recommended (for general use-cases) n". Or does the TLS group focus on Web only and I missed that? best regards Achim