Re: [TLS] chairs - please shutdown wiretapping discussion...

Yaron Sheffer <> Sat, 08 July 2017 14:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] chairs - please shutdown wiretapping discussion...
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Hi Stephen,

Like you, I am very unhappy with this draft, and would not support its 
adoption as a WG draft. However I think that open discussion is in 
general good, and that the best venue for discussion of this draft is 
this mailing list. Even if some of this discussion devolves into generic 
"are we pro or against wiretapping" questions.

I don't think this is a significant distraction that could derail 
(D)TLS, moreover, you will recall that in Chicago several new drafts 
were adopted to the working group. So the WG does feel that TLS is in 
good enough shape that we can spend some bandwidth on other things.



On 08/07/17 12:17, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> Sean/Joe,
> This is a request that you, as chairs, shut down the distracting
> wiretapping discussion, at least until DTLS1.3 is done.
> I have planned to spend time reading draft 21 and DTLS, but that
> won't happen if we keep having to fight off the latest attempts
> to break TLS. I'd not be surprised if I weren't the only one
> finding that distraction an irritating waste of time. Finishing
> TLS1.3 and getting DTLS1.3 on the way surely needs to not be
> constantly de-railed by these attempts to break TLS.
> Therefore I'd ask that you declare this discussion closed for at
> least that long (i.e until DTLS1.3 is done).
> I'd also ask that you not allocate agenda time for wiretapping
> in Prague.
> Thanks,
> S.
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